My Financial plan program : Rumors
October 17, 2006
MFPPro.com have been launched 4 days ago. When it launches some members already called scammers or calling them other program admins like phoenixinvest (which personally lost around $200) and compact surfing (around $2000). Let’s see some forum members opinions and why they are telling this, of course with our point of view:
First of all let me write down some important points:
- A network site, like always people came with a network site, creating first the autosurf and then the network, and that is becoming normally in this industry with the scammers, let’s point out some scammers: Compact Surfing, Phoenix invest *with a hyip and autosurf and forex bla bla*….
- Accepting: E-Gold, 1MDC, Bank Wires, Western Union and Cash-Evol. We remember that CS did the same thing with bank wires and never worked because they were giving fake bank accounts. Anyways this doesn’t tell you anything with some fake ids will be done a perfect scam.
- MFP claim to earn 30% in forex trding, we heard so many times this no? No proofs.
Qoutes claiming that this autosurf is from old scammers autosurfs:
looks like CS new product, right?
In my opinion, I tought the same thing the way they created “A network”, with similar things. But we can’t say they are CS just because of this. With time and proofs can tell us.
Another interested qoute:
paklah – pakistan?
http://www.muziqpakistan.com/ = http://www.compactsurfing.com/
a reply from one of their supportive members:
he from malay…. does’nt write anything like ‘LuukH’.. . if your not interested you know what there door is…
Another staff answering with the same thing:
LOL
Wrong guess. Thanks for try. Paklah is from Malaysia.
Ah I want to remember everyone our company will enable a support by phone service for those who want to talk with us. And you will be able to send mails for us as well.Just to avoid thoughts like this.
And of course to provide to you the best support
lol i can say Paklah is from Malaysia too because he speak malay like i do
Reez
My first impression when I loaded the site was “Compact Surfing” all over again
I hope it’s not and I wish those who join luck…
I’m not the only to think that…
Hello chrisann,
Our primary target customers for our products is worldwide. There is many other sites that earn large income of sales with good advertising strategy and in the same time with good support.
Yes, we have experienced on SEO submission, Adwords and PPC industry for almost 3 years.
Thanks for interested in My Financial Plan Program.
This message is from the admin of MFP, I dont want to critizise but PPC industry? or you mean contextual advertising? People would prefer to see proofs about experienced people about this field, what you mean SEO (search engine optimization) Submission? SEO is just submission? No my friend, Search engine optimization is everything and the less importan is the “Submission” read any boom about SEO and you will see what I’m talking about.
Ok xubec, let me clear things thing.
Here’s admin:
Abdullah Zainuddin (paklah_forex@yahoo.com) – mmg username: Paklah_forex
Here’s Staff:
- Sir. Deno (sir.deno@yahoo.com)
- Nshady (luxemborge@hotmail.com)
- Chris Mono (cmonery@aol.com)
- DaElaine (chiong1992@hotmail.com)
- Jobouknow (janieloanfinder@msn.com)
- Amrutrk (amrutrk008@hotmail.com)
Someone in the staff of etalk network talked with the admin of this program, and offered one of our advertising packages, guess what he told him? “Let me present this to the other adminS and see what they decide because the marketing plan is more than $100 bucks” a lie?
Ok, “real investments”? What kind of business is that? Kidnapping, drug dealers? Non of the legal type of bisiness can give you 180% in 90 days. So I’ll say it again one more time: Please, let’s just don’t speak about “real investments”.
What I like in those ’10%-50% profit in 10 days’ is that you can see the result in just that much time. If you donate to this admin, I’m sure you won’t have a chance to stay in profit. That’s just the game where everyone loses except for the admin and his supporters. Oh wait, who said that admin won’t cheat with his own team
Qoute from the admin:
I can prove myself is not arai, Yes you are rite people like arai does leave a big impact in this industries. People are just keep negative thought about malaysian, and now im one of them to prove to the world that not all malaysian cant be trusted.
A reply about this qoute from one of the forum members:
I see you know arai then. I spelled it wrong on purpose, and you spelled it correctly, but maybe because you are from Malaysia.
I see the support team is going to intervene here, as you planned.
Your attempt at avoiding my posts and questions are not making yourself look good. I have legitimate questions and you should have legitimate answers. You saying your going to last 5 years is strange too. Where do you come up with that number at?
You are avoiding my main question: Can you provide us with legitimate proof of your Forex trading that you claim to be so great at, and must be with your advertising budget?
again the same user behind the admin:
He left the thread when I started questioning him about him being Arai. I even SPELLED IT WRONG and he corrected my spelling. He is proving himself to not be trustworthy or realible, and terrible at support.
Sure, he is busy now, he got a lot of things to do, here is an example of admin’s todo list:
- Buy more banners (to be done)
- Draw some forex-prove screenshots (to be done)
- Think out some beivable excuse for knowing the exact spelling for ‘Arai’ (to be done)
Staff of MFP claimed that admin was busy in designing the site but what this person said is true and that was one of the reasons I tought was CS but again this is not a proof:
Site design? Looks done to be me….by DORIS not admin
Some one claiming that this admin is the same as phoenixinvest:
I don’t think this is Compact Surfing. I think this is Phoenix Investment using Compact Surfing’s ideas. Arai clearly isn’t as clever as the CS people were.
He is using the same tactics such as recruiting a group of people to work support to cover the questions he can’t answer. I asked many, many valid questions last night and Paklah (prime minister) read them atleast 3 times and left the thread and wouldn’t answer them. His first name is the name of the Prime Minister, and last name is the name of the Information Minister.
He refuses to show proof of Forex trading, and I also incorrectly spelled his real name, and he spelled it correctly when he quoted me while directing me to his website. He quoted me one time and avoided all legit questions.
And yes, there is too much hype about this. The support team are basically cheerleaders whose names are going to be ruined when this becomes a scam, which it will.
Admins answers:
Jimble,
Who is this Beckjo? you seems to mentions his/her name a couple of time. Pheonixvest and Compact Surfing is
one of the biggest site around that had disappointed lots of people. Yes Im from MALAYSIA and you were
saying about i have corrected ARIA to ARAI, what is wrong with that. In Malaysia every local that took part in
online investment had been trying to get this guy and email of his picture had been send around. Who doesn’t
know ARAI? If Peonixvest is mention the first name that comes out is ARAI. Yes I do know who is he, the
Malaysian scammer.
Work had been divided around to work offline and online. Who are the actual owners?
After a company is registered all information of the owner will be on the site.
Some members qoutes:
Well, I don’t really care where the admin from, but ……FOREX ………
Do you think there are ppl still buy this concept?
Even proven legit program like FXE can not sustain 10-15% monthly return and temporary shut down.Overall feeling is good, but I wish people can run a autosurf without BSing about Forex.
Btw, if you really can prove us by showing the forex trading account, I would pull back my words.
Else it look like another cheap scam solex surfing – so called forex based surfing. They claimed that they will show trading account only for member that invested 10K, LOL. Hope you won’t say the samething…
And here was the proof that I stopped to invest here:
I was wondering what the connection is between this site and ProfitSwinger.com
Oh before you all start to shout, I have something.
Is on the MFppro Domain.
Of course the picture is not here, but it was the header of ProfitSwinger.com another scam. Was placed in the hosting of MFP.
Admin replies:
Guys please keep in mind that MFP has got nothing to do with ProfitSwinger!
Please wait for and explanations from Neversay, He is MFP Programmer. I have to
Concentrate on completing the side. MFP launching time its just around the corner.
and here neversay clear about the image and I think we can say is a good reason and no lies:
Hello guys, I could not access MMG this morning to answer your question.
I can confirm you guys that PS admin and MFP admin are different persons.
I am sorry to cause this problem for MPF team.
That image is there by the req of PS admin in the past to install ACC-SENT for admin login. I forgot to remove it.
If you go site like poker2gold.com that also use my script you will find one there.
And many other sites you may find them too, as I rarely touch the /image/ dir when i put new one in.
I hope my statements will clear your doubt about this issue.
Please accept my apology on this matter.
So personally forgot about this as a “Proof”.
and here is the proof for neversay:
No problem Pakla, I still need to finish few mods requested by you. Hopefully i can finished it today.
Upps I found this too ..LOL
http://poker2gold.com/admin/images/admin_05.png
http://www.oceanofdollar.com/admin/images/admin_05.pngThanks Jumble for reminding me
Some members qoutes:
My apologies for being MIA Jimble. You now know how to contact me when I am not around MMG.
While Arai was figuring out what to do he mentioned me was considering starting another program “later this year.” I am at work and don’t have time for this right now. Preliminarily I would say this is Arai.
Someone mentioned before that this admin’s english was too good to be Arai. That is not true. I did the editing and grammar for phoenixvest and phoenix traffic. Sometimes when a long answer was required he would ask me to answer the post (I specifically remembering answering one on his behalf for ConsultantssCircle.) This admins grasp of the English language is exactly at the level of Arai. Jimble is right, the tactics and staffing are exactly the same. I’ll do some comparisons later this evening.
Someone asking if any malysian can confirm this address:
Zainuddin, Abdullah
102 Jln Hilir 2
Kuala Lumpur
KL, NA 50088
MY
+1.60122862253 Fax: +1.60122862253Can anyone confirm this address.
an answer came:
THAT ADDRESS IS FAKE…
First of, the no and the fax no is actually both MOBILE NUMBERS…so thats out.and theres no state NA…
and lastly theres no address called “Jln Hilir 2″ there is however “Jln Ampang Hilir”
not complete..possible going for a big scam…just like compactsurf
IM out..
another member:
I from Kuala Lumpur. That is fake address or incomplete. I try calling that cellphone number at 5:00AM Malaysia local time but can not reach or it’s turn OFF or it’s out of coverage area
another proof of error “grammer”:
it is not merely poor grammer, it is the same gramatical errors. Arai uses variations of the same name in screen names and his name (not all the time, but often). His real name is azrainuddin, this time it is zainuddin.
even though his handle was created this august he knew the correct spelling of arai and corrected Jimble.
He tried to get someone he talked into supporting one of Arai’s other programs to vouch for him (out of the thousands who belong to mmg he picked this person.)
He admitted (or claimed) to have faked stats last time so he has probably done the same here to attempt to add legitimacy to mfppro
as for #1, of course not. This one is not just ran similar, arai elaborately presents a program, advertises heavily by hiring someone just for marketing, likes the idea of 1% for 200 days, always builds a “support staff” for threads etc … This one is not just “similar”, it has his stamp all over it.
He became evasive when my name came up. That speaks volumes peeps!
another qoutes:
Sorry MFP Staff, but this program has a fake network without doubts, no of that sites are useful and none of them are really a part of MFP “company”. I do respect the admin here once he brings solid and stable plans, but he really has a fake network and that doesnt make any profits.
And so sincerely I would like to know how you MFP intend to provide those rates? Don’t say Forex because it’s impossible.
I’m sure that if this autosurf show people a solid plan and can prove it’s really backed by real investments we will have here a big and popular site.
I give you the ball Admin and Staff. What’s the answer?
and way more likely to make some money there…
all i can say for sure is i talked to this guy on YIM and had major flashbacks to “that other admin”…
i would like to see some real proof of course, but as for me..i just kinda feel way too uncomfortable with this one..
i don’t think so
where is admin? he was so active in last few days now he disappered? where are supporters?
Reply from the admin:
i dont even know who is arao… i had been accused by them as compact surf admin, profitswinger admin and phoneix vest..
things going out of my control over here…
i dont think reply to all of the troller will solve any problem.
right now i’m in the process to meetup with this guy to prove that my self is not arai or george blom that mmg members had assume.
Meet all you soon…
Member qoutes:
neversay was here and read the thread yesterday evening. He/she never said a word.
People know how to reach me now. I will be here as needed.
I have no doubt this is arai. I know him when I see him. This admin is one of the best scammers in the business. He fooled many people last time, including me. Since Phoenix I have read every post he has made on many forums including ones that are not hyip/money making forums. I know the gramatical mistakes he makes, I have seen his ads for web designers for autosurfs, egold exchange, template sales, hyips, and much more at various techie sites.
This is arai peeps
You’ve convinced me.
I think all of us owe you (and to Surfsmonitor, Jimble and others) gratitude for exposing this scammer. And this has taught me not to jump into new sites, just because they create a big hoopla.
i still feel horrible for all the losses people sustained from his last programs because I was staff and posted the phoenixvest thread. the least i can do is keep that site running, keep it updated and alert people when I am sure a program is his. I owe the people here that.
True! i like what i’ve just read there.
by the way Chris b4 you do, i would like to tell you 1st.
NO IM NOT INTRESTED TO JOIN YOUR SUPPORT TEAM.
Im not paid by anyone to make this post but this is what i think!
As a members of MMG i have my rite to speak.
well i also talked to “paklah” on YIM and after about 2 minutes, i thought i went back in time and was talking to “george” of phoenixinvest and phoenixtraffic all over again..i brought up questions which were avoided, then he asked me to come make a post here to clear his name and to tell everyone he wasn’t the admin of that old scam..like wtf?…
as for my post count, yes i talk alot..but nothing for you to worry about Amandateez and no need to concern yourself over how much i spend in programs, it varies a great deal, and no you won’t see me whining when i lose…thanks for your concern tho..
i don’t think it’s fair to ask anyone if they would suggest that their family members spend here..that’s a whole different ballgame if they’re not already involved in these online games..
and i totally agree with the person who said a straight up ponzi was better….forget all these “we trade” “we have outside income” crap..give me a good old ponzi that calls itself a ponzi any day…
and don’t blame the staff for trying to make a little money…that is what we’re all here for afterall..
There were problems here before i came along.
i put together the scam site that deal with arai. i went through thousands of posts all over the net he made, i spoke with him for hours on YM, and I blindly believed him and supported him while he was pulling off one of the biggest scams of the year. if i had a single doubt about this admin being arai I would have posted so.Q: why did the admin disappear?
A: Because I showed up. He was content posting until I came along. He knows I know him better than anyone and he knew the charade was over.Q: Why has the admin not come back to face me?
A: Because he knows he can’t escape who he is with meThis is not the compact surf admin. this is not the profit swinger admin. this IS the phoneixvest and Phoenix Traffic Network admin
let me add, I have been asked if arai was behind a couple others since Phoenixvest. Profit Swinger was one of them.I did not see the writing on the wall with them as I see with this one. I am too busy to be in hyips or autosurfs so I have no ulterior motive or incentive to post anything.
good luck with that
there is a reason why the program says it pays the 10th, 11th and 12th of each month and started @ the 10th. He got the enefit of people posting paid and not having to explain any further payments until the tenth of Nov. Pretty convenient isn’t it?
i spoke with someone in the KL area who knows arai last night. looks like he is pricing some expensive upgrades to his Honda. Anyone here guess where he is getting the $$ for it? I bet I can.
MFP started in a bad way. Admin is not online neither on YIM or MSN all day. We posted some qoutes and opinions because we know that people don’t have time to read all over the posts and the best way to know what is happening with an autosurf is the forum, other opinions, proofs, etc..
Is your desicion where and when to invest. We are not agains any autosurf without proofs we just post this as an information to new members who wants more information about this autosurf. Good luck!
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